Ed(ubuntu) 8.04 - S3 SuperSavage video card - music but no display in demo

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Ed(ubuntu) 8.04 - S3 SuperSavage video card - music but no display in demoleapy05/19/2009 - 04:33

Hello

I installed World Of Goo Demo on my son's Edubuntu 8.04 linux laptop. We fire it up and get music but just a blank black screen. I have tried changing to native full screen resolution (1024 x 768) in config.txt and also playing 800x600 windowed - no joy.

The laptop is a 1.2Ghz processor, 512GB RAM, 61GB space on drive. The video card is an S3 SuperSavage IX/C SDR if that means anything to anybody...

I assume the demo and full versions share the same technical requirements?  Now, I am happy to purchase the full licensed .deb version if it is more likely to work but don't really want to throw the money away.

Any guidance much appreciated.

L

Re: Ed(ubuntu) 8.04 - S3 SuperSavage video card - music but no display in demoSoultaker05/19/2009 - 10:12

Could you post the output produced when you enter glxinfo in a terminal?

I suspect that this particular video card just doesn't provide the level of OpenGL support required by the game.

Quote:
I assume the demo and full versions share the same technical requirements?  Now, I am happy to purchase the full licensed .deb version if it is more likely to work but don't really want to throw the money away.


Yes, the demo and full version use the same binary, so if you can't get the demo to run properly then buying the full version won't help you, I'm afraid.


Last modified Tue, 05/19/2009 - 10:14 by Soultaker
Re: Ed(ubuntu) 8.04 - S3 SuperSavage video card - music but no display in demospazturtle05/19/2009 - 11:11

I have tried running world of goo on edubuntu before but failed.
I suggest you upgrade to the full version of ubuntu because Canonical Ltd have dropped support for edubuntu.

Re: Ed(ubuntu) 8.04 - S3 SuperSavage video card - music but no display in demoleapy05/19/2009 - 11:35

[quote author=Soultaker link=topic=1862.msg12523#msg12523 date=1242745951]
Could you post the output produced when you enter glxinfo in a terminal?

I suspect that this particular video card just doesn't provide the level of OpenGL support required by the game.


Hello there

Here is the glxinfo data. I have no idea what I am looking at here! :-)

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Last modified Sat, 05/23/2009 - 16:54 by Soultaker
Re: Ed(ubuntu) 8.04 - S3 SuperSavage video card - music but no display in demoSoultaker05/22/2009 - 16:05

I'm afraid I'm not sure what precisely is wrong in your case, which is why I hadn't replied earlier. If you have installed the latest version available of the graphics drivers, and the game still doesn't run, then I'm afraid the game just isn't going to work on this laptop.

You could try upgrading to the most recent version of Ubuntu like spazturtle suggested, but I can't guarantee the game will then run.

By the way, just to ensure we have all the info in the thread, could you also post the contents of your logfile (at $HOME/.WorldOfGoo/WorldOfGoo.log)?

Re: Ed(ubuntu) 8.04 - S3 SuperSavage video card - music but no display in demoleapy05/23/2009 - 15:39

hello again

well, I haven't a clue what I am looking at but here's the ~/.WorldOfGoo/WorldOfGoo.log:

[t=0.00] Failed to read persistent data from "/home/bora/.WorldOfGoo/pers2.dat"!<br />[t=0.00] Locale en_GB.UTF-8 matched to language en.<br />[t=0.00] Primary language: en<br />[t=0.00] Created 800x600 (32 bpp) graphics surface.<br />[t=0.00] Created virtual viewport of size 800(+0)x600(+0)<br />[t=0.00] Using audio driver: pulse<br />[t=0.00] resized from 800x600 to 800x600<br />[t=0.00] loading game (version 1.40linux)...<br />[t=0.49] could not load image "res/images/flags/xx"<br />[t=2.50] Game paused...<br />[t=2.50] FileOpen("res/levels/MapWorldView/newmail.anim.binltl", 17, 0xad3eaf84) failed!<br />[t=2.50] FileOpen("res/levels/MapWorldView/MapWorldView/rot_1rps.anim.binltl", 17, 0xad3eaf84) failed!<br />[t=2.50] Game resumed after 1.094 seconds<br />[t=3.47] FileOpen("res/movie/MomTextSwap_displayloop/MomTextSwap_displayloop.movie.binltl", 17, 0xad3eb1dc) failed!<br />[t=3.47] FileOpen("res/movie/MomTextSwap_swap/MomTextSwap_swap.movie.binltl", 17, 0xad3eb1dc) failed!<br />[t=5.00] fps=49.8 ups=50.0<br />[t=6.12] loading game complete.<br />[t=6.12] FileOpen("res/levels/IslandUi/newmail.anim.binltl", 17, 0xbff18d94) failed!<br />[t=6.14] STATE TRANSITION: INIT --> WORLD (after 6 sec)<br />[t=10.00] fps=49.6 ups=50.0<br />[t=15.00] fps=50.0 ups=50.0<br />[t=20.03] fps=45.6 ups=49.5<br />[t=25.04] fps=40.7 ups=50.5<br />[t=30.08] fps=49.4 ups=49.6<br />[t=35.10] fps=44.8 ups=50.4<br />[t=40.12] fps=49.6 ups=50.0<br />[t=44.04] WARNING: skipping 12 simulation frames!<br />[t=45.14] fps=37.1 ups=47.6<br />[t=46.33] WARNING: skipping 0 simulation frames!<br />[t=47.76] Quit requested.<br />[t=47.76] TotalRunningTime = 50 seconds<br />[t=47.76] ----- destroying scene factory: -----<br />[t=47.76] -------------------------------------<br />[t=47.76] ----- destroying movie factory: -----<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'levelinfotransition_main' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'gooTransition_in' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'levelinfotransition_out' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'gooTransition_loop' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'signpostDlg_in' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'levelFadeOut' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'gooTransition_out' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'signpostDlg_loop' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'signpostDlg_flipin' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'signpostDlg_flipout' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'signpostDlg_out' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'signpostDlgIsh_in' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'signpostDlgIsh_loop' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'signpostDlgIsh_flipin' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'signpostDlgIsh_flipout' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'signpostDlgIsh_out' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'eol_1_in' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'levelinfotransition_in' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'eol_2_fillwait' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'eol_2.5_statsin' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'eol_3_handleup' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'eol_4_waitclick' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'eol_5_handlepull' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'eol_6_travel' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie 'eol_7_islandin' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76]        releasing movie '2dboyLogo' refcount=1<br />[t=47.76] -------------------------------------<br />[t=47.76] InhibitGnomeScreensaver destructor: killing child process 7118...


I see a few file open errors but the files referred to do not exist on the drive - nor do they exist on my work laptop which plays the game very well (this is a lot newer dual-core machine running Crunchbang so is very speedy).

Any advice very welcome

@spazturtle - FWIW, my understanding is not that Ubuntu have stopped supporting Edubuntu, it can just be loaded as an extra "educational" desktop in the same manner as Xubuntu and Kubuntu. They all build from the core Ubuntu base. I still use the term Edubuntu as shorthand for this.

Re: Ed(ubuntu) 8.04 - S3 SuperSavage video card - music but no display in demoSoultaker05/24/2009 - 14:41

Yes, the log file looks normal. I was mainly interested in the video mode that was being selected, but no real surprises there either.

It's still not too clear to me what the problem is, but I have another test you can perform, if you like, for which you will have to download a little test program, which you will need to download, mark executable, then run, and then please post the output you get here. Hopefully, this gives some more information on the video mode that gets selected by SDL on this system.

(For example, open a console, and type:)
"wget" "http://2dboy.com/TopSecretTransfer/linux-test/sdltest"<br />chmod a+x sdltest<br />./sdltest<br />

By the way, do other OpenGL-based applications run correctly on this laptop?


Last modified Sun, 05/24/2009 - 14:43 by Soultaker
Re: Ed(ubuntu) 8.04 - S3 SuperSavage video card - music but no display in demospazturtle05/24/2009 - 15:35

Edubuntu disables OpenGL, I think

Re: Ed(ubuntu) 8.04 - S3 SuperSavage video card - music but no display in demoleapy05/25/2009 - 17:20

[quote author=Soultaker link=topic=1862.msg12632#msg12632 date=1243194060]
It's still not too clear to me what the problem is, but I have another test you can perform, if you like, for which you will have to download a little test program, which you will need to download, mark executable, then run, and then please post the output you get here. Hopefully, this gives some more information on the video mode that gets selected by SDL on this system.


Results are:

xxx@xxx-laptop:~$ ./sdltest<br />width=800  height=600  windowed=1  doublebuffered=1<br />color_size=32  depth_size=16<br />sdl_flags: 536870914<br />surface: width=800  height=600 color_size=32<br />GL: doublebuffered=1  depth_size=24<br /><br />width=800  height=600  windowed=1  doublebuffered=1<br />color_size=32  depth_size=24<br />sdl_flags: 536870914<br />surface: width=800  height=600 color_size=32<br />GL: doublebuffered=1  depth_size=24<br /><br />width=800  height=600  windowed=1  doublebuffered=1<br />color_size=16  depth_size=16<br />sdl_flags: 536870914<br />surface: width=800  height=600 color_size=32<br />GL: doublebuffered=1  depth_size=24<br /><br />width=800  height=600  windowed=1  doublebuffered=1<br />color_size=16  depth_size=24<br />sdl_flags: 536870914<br />surface: width=800  height=600 color_size=32<br />GL: doublebuffered=1  depth_size=24<br />

Quote:

By the way, do other OpenGL-based applications run correctly on this laptop?


Yes - not had problems as far as I am aware....

Again, many thanks for taking an interest. Let me know if anything strikes you as useful. In the meantime, I am letting my son run WOG on my first-gen eeepc which runs it perfectly....

L

Re: Ed(ubuntu) 8.04 - S3 SuperSavage video card - music but no display in demoSoultaker05/26/2009 - 08:27

Hmm, that output looks exactly as it should, so that doesn't give me any more information, unfortunately...

I don't have any more concrete suggestions, I'm afraid. You could try upgrading your drivers and/or your operating system to a more recent version, but of course that's a lot of effor just to get this game to work. Besides that, I don't really have more suggestions to offer.

Re: Ed(ubuntu) 8.04 - S3 SuperSavage video card - music but no display in demoleapy05/26/2009 - 10:47

OK. Well, thank you very much for your assistance.

I appreciate the effort.

L