GooBall idea : Mutant/Evil Goo?

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I'm posting here as it seems there's no other place to post new goo ideas, well, anyway I had a few story ideas once, and suddenly, BOOM WOG 2 was being made! So basically I had this great idea for Mutant/Evil Goo. They have AI that lets them build by themselves, and in levels with them, you have a structure and they have a structure, and when you connect a goo to yours and theirs, you gain whatever goos your strands touch, but you don't gain your new goo's strands, so they still have it. And you have to try to get all the strands. It sounds confusing but does anyone get it?

-1337cool.
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I think it is impossible to make self-building goos. We're not making a new engine and self-building gooballs aren't included in the old one.
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Yeah I'm not sure we can do that...sorry.
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That's fine, though goos already roll around by themselves, so building would just be one more step. SMART building would be the hard part. Perhaps we could still have pictures of them, maybe in the game you can view art like beta art (in a package that comes with the game) and it might have the idea for this or something.
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...more like a LOT more steps...

You don't know how hard it would be to program self-building goos.
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First step: Goo balls rolling around in a specific pattern.

Next step, Well, programming so in the beginning (like during the psuedo-cutscene that's in wide-screen view, you know what I mean) some goo balls would build by 1 goo ball more.

Next step is to have them build while you are playing.

Next step is to have them build randomly

Next is to build smartly

Then to build to a certain goal

Then to build against you.
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gooballs CAN'T build a tower by themselves. We're not programming new WoG, we're only replacing old levels with new ones, editing .xml files etc.
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:DI know but I'm just saying how long it would take.
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1337cool
at 07:53PM on Dec 15, 2009

:DI know but I'm just saying how long it would take.

Are you a programmer?
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Not really. I've written some XML stuff tho.
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Then you can't really have an accuate opinion on how long it would take. Since I'm even less of a programmer than you, I can't make that assumption either, but I'm guessing it would take an extremely long time and some pretty clever coding. You would have to program in strategies and lots of variables.

EDIT: It may be only a few steps, but they're really long steps.
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FloatingFish88
at 06:04PM on Dec 16, 2009

Then you can't really have an accuate opinion on how long it would take. Since I'm even less of a programmer than you, I can't make that assumption either, but I'm guessing it would take an extremely long time and some pretty clever coding. You would have to program in strategies and lots of variables.

EDIT: It may be only a few steps, but they're really long steps.

Good point.
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:D I just noticed something funny! The forum comes in the graphic of a book, and THIS topic is such a LONG book!
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Enchanter49
at 06:16PM on Dec 16, 2009

:D I just noticed something funny! The forum comes in the graphic of a book, and THIS topic is such a LONG book!

Now only $5.99 at Waterstones!
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what about the autoattatch=true in the pilot gooball?
(someone else thought of this on goofans, I'm just reposting it here)
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madaco
at 08:10PM on Dec 17, 2009

what about the autoattatch=true in the pilot gooball?
(someone else thought of this on goofans, I'm just reposting it here)

Hmm...I forgot about that in the xml. I'm not sure what it will do though. It probably doesn't mean that it will create a gooball AI, but I'll investigate.
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autoattach is something like in pilot gooball, when it's near a strand, it attaches to it.
However, gooball with this wouldn't build a tower by itself.
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True, but if we put a big hourglass at the top of the level, with gooballs inside with Autoattach on, they would all fall to a starting triangle and build.
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1337cool
at 07:30PM on Dec 18, 2009

True, but if we put a big hourglass at the top of the level, with gooballs inside with Autoattach on, they would all fall to a starting triangle and build.

Hey! That would make sense!

We would still have to make sure the user can't drag those gooballs away.

I guess we can make it so that the user can't even touch them with the cursor!
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Maybe 2 hourglass and the curser stays in your one, and you race the enemy to the top?
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But how would that make sense in the storyline?
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I don't know, not every level may be connected with story.
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Yeah I guess it can work!
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Maybe it's a type of alien goo that doesn't like you being on there planet. And we could have 4 or 5 levels like this in the game, with different goos on the other team, like in one level they might have some autoconnect balloons.
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Possiblities...possibilities...
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Why don't we have something like this?(Do you think it's cheesy):

                                        Welcome to Wog2!

                                                     Play
                                                  Profiles
                                         Multiplayer online
                                  Infinitive windows Freezer
                                                Sandbox
                                                  Options
                                                  Credits
(You click on "Multiplayer online")

                Connecting to Information Super Highway...

If it doesn't work...
Connection failed

-Sincerely, World of goo Corporation 2.0 (for the new Wogc) (ok button)

If it does work...

         Welcome to the Information Super Highway vs. Colosseum!
                                What would you like to do?

                                              Time Challenge
Race against the clock as you build to a certain measurement, Beat your previous tower, or build vs. a friend to create a real Tower of Goo!
                                                  VS. match
              Try to build the highest tower against your friends!
                                                  Level race
                        Race to finish a level from WoG2!
               (You can only play the levels that you have beaten...)

(You click on "VS. match)

                            Which kind of Match would you like?
                                         Select a match...
                                           Build-a-matic
                           Try to create the tallest tower...
                                             Meter stack                                                            Beat your opponent, building to a certain height with up to 500 balls!

(You click on Build-a-matic)

                                        Finding competiters...

If it doesn't work...
Connection failed

-Sincerely, World of goo Corporation 2.0 (ok button)

If it does work...

                                                      Done!

                              Who would you like to compete against?
          Mark the box for each person you want to compete against...

Pavke                   [_]
Enchanter49       [_]
Martin33               [_]
FloatingFish88   [_]
MOM4Evr             [_]
GooMaster2000 [_]
XDboy                   [_]
Spazturtle             [_]
DavidC                 [_]
Joris                     [_]
Jamerz                 [_]
thb                         [_]
DeSatyr                [_]
1337cool             [_]
madaco               [_]

(you check some boxes and play the game)

                                                     LOADING...

(After the game is done, You go back to the ISH
menu and select "level race")

                                                    Level race
                                           Select the options

                                           Levels from WoG2
                                       Levels from this game...
                                          Levels fromWoG1
If you have WoG1 installed, then you can play the levels from there...
                                     Levels from WoG: TFR
The TFR levels. (might require You to be using Gootool Right now)...
                                      Levels from Farlands
               The "WoG: Farlands" levels(requires Gootool)
                                          Challenge levels
                        Challenging levels (requires Gootool)
                                            Gootool Mods
                     Other levels from Gootool! (requires Gootool)

                                  What do you guys think of it?
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Maybe it could go between Chapters 3 and 4. You fall into a strange crater and everything turns white. You find yourself in an hourglass. A 2D Boy puts a sign in your hourglass. "Whoever reaches the top first goes home. -The Sign Painter" So you race the gooballs in the other hourglass.

But it's a bit of a stretch.
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To your multiplayer idea: FAIL! (I don't mean to be offensive, but to do that we would need to reprogram everything! Thus, making a completely different game...)

To the rest of the menu features: Not bad...I suppose.
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Then why don't we just make it seperate?

WoG: multiplayer pack!
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If you wanna program something like that, James, go ahead. But we're not the best at programming this stuff.
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agree with Enchanter.
Idea is good. But we can't create this.
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