@nav, you can delete the old shaky TOG vid now, I've updated wogfan.
I like your RPS strat, you've got some serious whack power there. I can see you setting loads more records with the skill you've shown
@buck, a new tower! The current one is good enough to beat kamal, dont give up on it.
Have you mastered the floating triangle yet?
One idea I had to RPS was to attach one ivy goo and try and whack it above the line set to trigger the cutscene, don't know if it's possible but it might be with whacking power like that.
On a side note, anyone who uses steam and would like a free copy of dota 2 my handle is LTumbleweed. They keep giving me copies and I've got six now lol.
@buck, a new tower! The current one is good enough to beat kamal, dont give up on it.
Have you mastered the floating triangle yet?
I guess I just like designing towers Nah I haven't tried the triangle. I suppose I will at some point. Thanks for the Alt-F4 tip, I think it does work on Linux.
It's not possible its too high even with a strong whack.
I also need a guide who can show how you guys keep the important parts of your video by trimming it.Chain 0 moves is a 9 minutes long video and I want to convert it into 5 minutes but I dont know how you guys do it (sorry for the off topic!)
@nav, I've said this before, but I use Windows Live Movie Maker. Learn how to use the split function so you can speed up parts, and also delete sections and add fade in/outs. Its basic stuff so it shouldnt take you too long to learn. Create a custom setting to save with, make it something like 800x600, 4000kbps, 30fps.
I've done a quick tutorial for you. The first one shows how to speed up a section by using the split function. Notice that the split part reduces in size which shows its now condensed.
The second shows me deleting a split off section and adding a fade in or out for the appropriate section, useful for removing boring parts.
The vids quality isnt good but you can see what I'm clicking on. Ask if you dont understand anything.
Edit: I've put your chain vid on wogfan and also added your RPS one in the lower part as an alternative method.
Something is wrong with my Movie Maker than yours.Don't know whats the problem,but I understood.I edited the Chain video by cutting the long part.This looks easy though.
It always amazes me when great players have trouble making towers. The main skills needed are kicking the tower so it stays straight and a quick final rush. Those things should be easy for you now you've got really good. You should be able to do a 50 no problem with kamals design; he wont mind you copying his, I used it for a lot of my old record towers.
I could never get 10 sec on FM, it'd be good to have a vid of it.
Have you found a way to lessen the slowdown caused by fraps? It can vary depending on how many effects and balls are in the level. If its too slow, I'd always change recorders and use Camtasia.
9 seconds as I said in Description should be possible if the second lever didn't hit the structure.
I play with towers when I don't feel like improving my scores.It kinda came to me while trying to finish the game.Though if you can get 89 balls on tower of goo you can get 15+ meter from the final rush.
Nope didn't found a way to stop the slowdown,but flying machine has only a few balls so wasn't much a problem.
@nav, have you watched the Ode 7 move vid yet? Are you still working in it.
@mygod, if you come to this forum every day, then how come you never say anything anymore. Its no wonder this sites looking dead these days coz people come on but dont join in. I'm not having a go at you, its just an observation.
I watched,tried,moved goos out of the structure to make whacking easy but the main problem is I cant actually see the detaching wall so it's hard to make the correct line.I moved on to welcoming unit again.
Could you try and get 2 seconds on burning man? I never have luck with that.Also ivy tower OCD 5 seconds could be possible.
I saw the previous pages of this topic and saw it more lively then (might be because there were many record left) but I don't see anyone here nowadays.
Edit:Wait I thought you couldn't whack now because of your mouse?How did you get the 5 moves than?
Tower topic: Did you see this tower?Its one of Bruno's tower which might get into the top 10 with improvements.Also there is this design he made.
but the main problem is I cant actually see the detaching wall
Yeah, that can be problematic, but it shouldnt stop you trying. You're probably fed up of having to throw all the balls off first, its understandable. At least you know you've got a record to go at sometime. I wont steal it from you.
I dont think 2 sec is possible for BM, I could try not attaching the balloon, but even then it might not be enough. My time was about 3.7, so its a lot to improve on.
The same with IvyT, my time was about 6.7. Give it a go if you think you can beat it.
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Wait I thought you couldn't whack now because of your mouse?
The whacking in that level isnt very hard, theres the water that gives some extra boost, plus (if you look in Woogle) theres a "helperForce" which will also give it a helping hand. So not much power is needed. Things like Ode and TOG require the serious whacking.
Re tower topic, I think I've seen that one before, it might have been in the to 10 once. It could get (back) in the top 10 like you say, he just needs to build it more evenly. Its a bit like kamals but with a slightly different middle section, like 'DaB - Tower'. But none of them are better than kamals, stick with that for the best result.
I'm not sure about the second one, the feet look a little weak and wobbly. And that upper chain isnt doing anything.
I do move 4 wrong as it doesn't detach like move 5 so it's getting annoying and I doubt i will have any luck getting the line to the pipe as it always falls to the second hill.
My speed isn't that good as you,DaB,Pavke or Kopa.Beating a time record is very hard now.
I got 44.8 meters from the first tower.It gets extremely unstable when it reaches 15 meters and becomes more stable at 29 meter.The final rush doesn't affect it must unless it gets the height of 42 meter as it starts falling.
I didn't try the second tower as it takes lots of time for making it and I cant keep the towers stable after it leans to connect unless by using lots of goo.
How does all the top 10 tower has a pattern of strand?(In other words why are all the strand are the same) I never could do it which might be a problem to making towers.
Well, someone someday will get that 7 moves, if not you, then your successor.
Your speed will improve over time; it took me a while to get good, and once I did, the records came quite easily. But like you say, its hard now to find one to improve on. Two you should try are Chain and Drool, they can be done faster.
So you've been copying lots of different towers to see which works best for you. As always, my advice would be to stick with kamals, you cant go wrong.
I'm not sure what you mean about "pattern of strand". Are you talking about how consistent the length of them are? As long as the centre blocks are nice and straight then all of the side supports will naturally end up equal as well.
Edit: can you just clarify something, can you view Unlisted videos, like this.
I'm slow on both of them,though drool OCD might be possible.
Not best for me but i'm looking for a new design also,I dont want to take away a tower in the top 10 with copying one of the towers.I still wish I could find an improvement on my old tower.
By pattern of strand I mean why do all the strand looks same as other strand,for example, compare this with this (except the leaning and height part).You can see both tower are same but my strands are looking random rather your ones are all the same.A more better example would be your 55 meter tower.
I cant actually view anything if I don't search in youtube,its still blocked but it has a connection problem which is allowing me to see videos for a while.
Copying a design doesn't matter; get in the top 10 any way you can.
For the strand pattern thing, its just all about how well you build it. Its mainly to do with the centre blocks, you've not got some of them at their full height which offsets the side parts. All the strands you add need to be the same length in order to create a straight tower, and that all stems from the blocks. Get them right and it'll look a lot better. It can take time to build one straight, so dont rush. You should make copies of the pers2 as you build so you can revert back a stage if its looking crooked. You do make copies, right?
The thing is, Fraps pulls the video directly from graphics memory, so for demanding 3D games, it's far better. But hey, for World of Goo, whatever works.
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Have you tried to get higher yet?
I started a new tower but it's not looking very promising. If I do manage to get anything higher, you'll know
@nav, you can delete the old shaky TOG vid now, I've updated wogfan.
I like your RPS strat, you've got some serious whack power there. I can see you setting loads more records with the skill you've shown
@buck, a new tower! The current one is good enough to beat kamal, dont give up on it.
Have you mastered the floating triangle yet?
One idea I had to RPS was to attach one ivy goo and try and whack it above the line set to trigger the cutscene, don't know if it's possible but it might be with whacking power like that.
On a side note, anyone who uses steam and would like a free copy of dota 2 my handle is LTumbleweed. They keep giving me copies and I've got six now lol.
Have you mastered the floating triangle yet?
I guess I just like designing towers Nah I haven't tried the triangle. I suppose I will at some point. Thanks for the Alt-F4 tip, I think it does work on Linux.
It's not possible its too high even with a strong whack.
I also need a guide who can show how you guys keep the important parts of your video by trimming it.Chain 0 moves is a 9 minutes long video and I want to convert it into 5 minutes but I dont know how you guys do it (sorry for the off topic!)
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@nav, I've said this before, but I use Windows Live Movie Maker. Learn how to use the split function so you can speed up parts, and also delete sections and add fade in/outs. Its basic stuff so it shouldnt take you too long to learn. Create a custom setting to save with, make it something like 800x600, 4000kbps, 30fps.
I use Windows Live Movie Maker just didn't know how to edit it.
After trying alot of edits here is Chain 0 moves
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I've done a quick tutorial for you. The first one shows how to speed up a section by using the split function. Notice that the split part reduces in size which shows its now condensed.
The second shows me deleting a split off section and adding a fade in or out for the appropriate section, useful for removing boring parts.
The vids quality isnt good but you can see what I'm clicking on. Ask if you dont understand anything.
Edit: I've put your chain vid on wogfan and also added your RPS one in the lower part as an alternative method.
Something is wrong with my Movie Maker than yours.Don't know whats the problem,but I understood.I edited the Chain video by cutting the long part.This looks easy though.
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I cant see the problem. If you want the Split button to be usable you obviously have to move the marker along a bit to the spot you want to split.
I have a new record.
OOS - 6 moves. Read the description for more.
Wait nothing I worked it out.
Nice record also.Got back one of your least move records which I took.
Ode 7 moves isn't possible,tried but I cant find any idea on how to make a line with only 7 goos.
Edit: I'm just 1.83 meters of from beating skiz0r's tower now. (I do hope kamal isn't angry for me copying his tower)
Edit2:Well I got 10 seconds on flying machine,i'll try and record it now.
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7 moves on Ode is very possible, heres how.
It always amazes me when great players have trouble making towers. The main skills needed are kicking the tower so it stays straight and a quick final rush. Those things should be easy for you now you've got really good. You should be able to do a 50 no problem with kamals design; he wont mind you copying his, I used it for a lot of my old record towers.
I could never get 10 sec on FM, it'd be good to have a vid of it.
Have you found a way to lessen the slowdown caused by fraps? It can vary depending on how many effects and balls are in the level. If its too slow, I'd always change recorders and use Camtasia.
Edit: Another new one, Small Divide - 5 sec
Flying Machine 10 seconds
9 seconds as I said in Description should be possible if the second lever didn't hit the structure.
I play with towers when I don't feel like improving my scores.It kinda came to me while trying to finish the game.Though if you can get 89 balls on tower of goo you can get 15+ meter from the final rush.
Nope didn't found a way to stop the slowdown,but flying machine has only a few balls so wasn't much a problem.
I'll try Ode now.
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Its actually very difficult to do more than 14 meters on the final rush. The towers normally falling over at that point.
Another 5 anyone? Hello..
The next ones I'll be getting 5 on are grape vine virus and deliverance
3 more records! Congratulations!
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Your whacking skill is excellent!
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I don't know why you guys say my whacking is good,Kopa has more power into it.I just kick the line up very fast and only a few power.
Sadly I cant watch the 7 move strat peter gave,I either have to search it on youtube or look in the channel.
Nice time records Peter! 5 seconds on grape vine virus and deliverance is impossible,unless you found a new bug or talking about 50 seconds.
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@nav, whatever power you think you have, at least you can do it. Only a handful of people have got proficient at it.
I've made that 7 move strat Public now so you can see it.
I was just joking about grape and deliv. A more realistic one would be graceful failure.
I'm always here. I come to this forum every day. I'm just busy working on something about Little Inferno these days.
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And to complete the 5 trilogy...
@nav, have you watched the Ode 7 move vid yet? Are you still working in it.
@mygod, if you come to this forum every day, then how come you never say anything anymore. Its no wonder this sites looking dead these days coz people come on but dont join in. I'm not having a go at you, its just an observation.
I watched,tried,moved goos out of the structure to make whacking easy but the main problem is I cant actually see the detaching wall so it's hard to make the correct line.I moved on to welcoming unit again.
Could you try and get 2 seconds on burning man? I never have luck with that.Also ivy tower OCD 5 seconds could be possible.
I saw the previous pages of this topic and saw it more lively then (might be because there were many record left) but I don't see anyone here nowadays.
Edit:Wait I thought you couldn't whack now because of your mouse?How did you get the 5 moves than?
Tower topic: Did you see this tower?Its one of Bruno's tower which might get into the top 10 with improvements.Also there is this design he made.
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Yeah, that can be problematic, but it shouldnt stop you trying. You're probably fed up of having to throw all the balls off first, its understandable. At least you know you've got a record to go at sometime. I wont steal it from you.
I dont think 2 sec is possible for BM, I could try not attaching the balloon, but even then it might not be enough. My time was about 3.7, so its a lot to improve on.
The same with IvyT, my time was about 6.7. Give it a go if you think you can beat it.
The whacking in that level isnt very hard, theres the water that gives some extra boost, plus (if you look in Woogle) theres a "helperForce" which will also give it a helping hand. So not much power is needed. Things like Ode and TOG require the serious whacking.
Re tower topic, I think I've seen that one before, it might have been in the to 10 once. It could get (back) in the top 10 like you say, he just needs to build it more evenly. Its a bit like kamals but with a slightly different middle section, like 'DaB - Tower'. But none of them are better than kamals, stick with that for the best result.
I'm not sure about the second one, the feet look a little weak and wobbly. And that upper chain isnt doing anything.
I do move 4 wrong as it doesn't detach like move 5 so it's getting annoying and I doubt i will have any luck getting the line to the pipe as it always falls to the second hill.
My speed isn't that good as you,DaB,Pavke or Kopa.Beating a time record is very hard now.
I got 44.8 meters from the first tower.It gets extremely unstable when it reaches 15 meters and becomes more stable at 29 meter.The final rush doesn't affect it must unless it gets the height of 42 meter as it starts falling.
I didn't try the second tower as it takes lots of time for making it and I cant keep the towers stable after it leans to connect unless by using lots of goo.
How does all the top 10 tower has a pattern of strand?(In other words why are all the strand are the same) I never could do it which might be a problem to making towers.
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Well, someone someday will get that 7 moves, if not you, then your successor.
Your speed will improve over time; it took me a while to get good, and once I did, the records came quite easily. But like you say, its hard now to find one to improve on. Two you should try are Chain and Drool, they can be done faster.
So you've been copying lots of different towers to see which works best for you. As always, my advice would be to stick with kamals, you cant go wrong.
I'm not sure what you mean about "pattern of strand". Are you talking about how consistent the length of them are? As long as the centre blocks are nice and straight then all of the side supports will naturally end up equal as well.
Edit: can you just clarify something, can you view Unlisted videos, like this.
I'll try to get 7 moves just it might take time.
I'm slow on both of them,though drool OCD might be possible.
Not best for me but i'm looking for a new design also,I dont want to take away a tower in the top 10 with copying one of the towers.I still wish I could find an improvement on my old tower.
By pattern of strand I mean why do all the strand looks same as other strand,for example, compare this with this (except the leaning and height part).You can see both tower are same but my strands are looking random rather your ones are all the same.A more better example would be your 55 meter tower.
I cant actually view anything if I don't search in youtube,its still blocked but it has a connection problem which is allowing me to see videos for a while.
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Copying a design doesn't matter; get in the top 10 any way you can.
For the strand pattern thing, its just all about how well you build it. Its mainly to do with the centre blocks, you've not got some of them at their full height which offsets the side parts. All the strands you add need to be the same length in order to create a straight tower, and that all stems from the blocks. Get them right and it'll look a lot better. It can take time to build one straight, so dont rush. You should make copies of the pers2 as you build so you can revert back a stage if its looking crooked. You do make copies, right?
I have found something better than fraps.
Better in the sense that it is free.
CamStudio-Recorder. I am never bothering with fraps. Evar.
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$300 tho? Well, the 30-day trial is nice anyhow.
The thing is, Fraps pulls the video directly from graphics memory, so for demanding 3D games, it's far better. But hey, for World of Goo, whatever works.
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