Actually, an infinite number of monkey would write the works of shakespeare almost instantly, since there's an infinite number of them.
two things involving monkeys:
1. they tried that with about 50 monkeys and type writers. the monkeys threw it at each other, tried to eat it, and also used it as a toilet, but not a key was typed. it would have a probability of two to the power of 99999999^9999999 and falling.....
2. if 1 monkey of those infinity monkeys are wearing a blue cap, then that would be a ratio of 1/∞, and 1/∞ = 0/1. or 0%. if 5,000,000 of them are wearing potatoes as earrings (or whatever) then that would be 1/∞ = x/1 and ∞ divided by ∞ = 1 (anything divided by itself =1) so 1 divided by ∞ would be 0, making the whole number system render less. so that means since no numbers mean anything then numbers are false and you can answer "bigfoot" made of ASCII characters in your next math test and it would be true.
0 x ∞ is just infinity groups of zero (or zero groups of infinity) to break it all down so it would be zero. any thing else like division, adding, subtracting, shooting, or anything else would do nothing to infinity. so half of infinity is the same thing as infinity? (the internet shuts down for a year to process this statement).
If n / infinity = 0, then 0 * infinity = (n / infinity) * infinity = n for any real number n. So it's undefined.
EXCEPT...
This assumes that infinity / infinity = 1. It doesn't. Since infinity = infinity + infinity, if we assume that infinity / infinity = 1, then infinity/infinity + infinity/infinity = 1, so 1 equals 2. That doesn't work.
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Anyway, if we were made by randomness, then there is no real purpose for humans to exist. That causes MAJOR problems. If you looked at the crime rates of famous cities before evolution was taught as truth and what they are now, I'm sure you'd see an increase. The reason for that is:
Someone is tempted to steal and they believe evolution because the teachers are talking as if it is fact, despite that it's only a theory. Then they realize that because they are a random arrangement of molecules they figure that they have no purpose to further the human society because they would just die later and have no point to life. So they figure they can steal whatever and not get judged by God at the end because they believe there is no God. Therefore, they all believe that and decide that everyone can do whatever they feel is right and crime rate increases from lack of morality.
What do you think about that?
Also, I like using infinity in equations... that's fun!
But how did kirdneh type that infinity symbol?
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I don't want to be mean on this forum, but I'm very tempted. Do you really believe people think of all that on their own? You only thought of it because you were looking for an argument. It's also strange you say there isn't meaning to life. That's ridiculous. Entirely ridiculous. I can't believe you think people stop living well when they learn of evolution. That's just so entirely radically ridiculous. Also, crime rates have been accelerating long before evolution was introduced. People don't just go into anarchy when they fail to believe in a higher power. That's why humans are so great; we are always claiming dominance over other life, allowing breakthroughs for our own practices (not saying of course that all life isn't sacred, I would never kill anything with an IQ above 20, so pretty much just flies and spiders).
I'm usually completely fine with religious folk, but you sir are one of the nuts I hate, getting hard by saying only people with God can be perfect morals.
I wasn't doing that in a mean way either I was just wondering what kind of argument it would bring up. I'm sorry I just get a leetle carried away sometimes... I'm not saying that only people with God can be perfect morals,or, at least, wasn't implying that. I was just wondering if evolution has anything to do with the moral rates decreasing and wondering what would happen if evolution wasn't being taught. Just curious that's all. Though I do firmly have my Christain beliefs but I'm not trying to impose them on people, just wondering... besides, I'm only 16! I'm not perfectly mature, nobody can get that way... that's why Jesus came. But I'm just wondering things.
Hey... what about raising infinity to the infinite power? what does that come out to? Just wondering.
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Raising infinity to an infinite power would just get infinity. As Red said, infinity is just a way of describing a never ending number, so using it in just about any equation breaks the mathematical laws. Similar to dividing by zero.
Y'know, when people start giving reasons why science is controversial to religion, I like to try and brings them together. So consider this: evolution managed to create bodies for our souls to live in. It's possible that on other planets, similar vessels that can contain souls and minds similar to ours also exist. Basically, what I'm saying is that although our bodies are created by randomness, that doesn't mean that our souls or minds are.
Take it a step further, and you might say that evolution isn't actually random. Sure, it might seem random to us, but that doesn't mean that God didn't intend it to happen. I'm sure that we see things completely different to how God sees them, so we can't try and say that something wasn't supposed to happen, or didn't have a reason to happen, just because we can't conceive that reason.
The only problem I have with trying to "fit science and religion" together is that something has to give way. Timelines and generations in the Bible are so fully and literally flushed out that the most time you can get for the age of the universe is 6,000-10,000 years. So people look for a way to jam the millions of years in someplace. But this is biased from the beginning. They're assuming that science proves millions of years, and they're trying to change the Bible to fit that. And it doesn't entirely work. What if you started from the viewpoint that the Bible is true, and try to fit science to that? Logically and philosophically, this viewpoint is just as sound. And imo, they fit together quite a bit better than the other way around. (Woo, rhymes)
I'm not trying to fit together science and Christianity, I'm talking about science and general religious beliefs, including Christianity, Islam, and Judaism (is that what it's called?). Maybe not Hinduism, since they have multiple gods, but basically I'm trying to say that both evolution and the idea that God created the universe can fit together. Maybe not all points of a single religion would fit, but you get the idea, right?
Yes I get the idea. But yes religon with science; they go hand in hand. Without one, the other fails....
Ok... I'm kinda gettin' bored here. What else is there to talk about? We've basically posted about every single topic... well... except politics...
Here's my view on politics in the US right now:
1.Obama is horrible.
2.He's moving us towards socialism.
3.That'll lead us to communism.
4.You know how bad communism is from the Nazis right?
5.If the government keeps spending thier taxes off and getting us into debt we're toast.
6.If the communist countries like China that we're borrowing money from suddenly decide to bomb us if we don't pay them back... we're in war and toast if we don't get that government to BUDGET!
7.If America turns communist I'm running away to make my own country.
8.If that fails I'll try one in space.
9.Rick Perry has the right idea to get people praying! PRAY LIKE THE WIND PEOPLE!
Other than that... nothin' to talk about...
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Politics has already been discussed on this thread. I personally listened to a big political discussion last night between a two friends, and the other three people in the room were quite amused by all the different faces I was making. Fun, really. But yah, I don't care much for politics. This isn't to say that I won't vote or anything, but I'll be voting between the lesser of two evils. (Or three, counting Ron Paul)
@puggsoy: I'm not sure what you're shooting at then. Are you saying that all religions are inherently identical? I don't believe in a God who created the world and stopped there; I believe in a God who created it, gave us the free will to do what we want, died to pay the penalty for our disbelief when we chose willfully to treat Him like trash, wants a personal relationship with each one of us, and wrote down everything so we get the full picture.
Well, what I'm basically trying to say is that the theory of the Big Bang, evolution, etc, doesn't necessarily mean that there's no God. I'm trying to show that all these scientific theories could still be true along with God also existing.
When I grouped all those religions together, I was pretty much grouping those who believe in a single God, as opposed to those who believe in multiple gods, like Hindus. (No offence to Hindus, btw.)
But to say that God made the world exactly how it is now (or was a few thousand years ago) is a whole different matter: that's where science and religion start to collide. I'm just trying to show that evolution doesn't mean God doesn't exist.
Ooooo...kay? I'm not sure why you'd want to prove that. But there are plenty of people who'd disagree, even atheists.
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“Christianity has fought, still fights, and will fight science to the desperate end over evolution, because evolution destroys utterly and finally the very reason Jesus’ earthly life was supposedly made necessary. Destroy Adam and Eve and the original sin, and in the rubble you will find the sorry remains of the son of god. Take away the meaning of his death. If Jesus was not the redeemer that died for our sins, and this is what evolution means, then Christianity is nothing.”
G. Richard Bozarth, “The Meaning of Evolution”, American Atheist, 20 Sept. 1979, p. 30
Meh, I'm just trying to make it clear because, from what I understood, Gooballs of Fire seemed to think that evolution = no God. I'm not saying that's exactly what he said, but that's the kind of vibe I was getting. So I was just trying to make it all clear.
But see, you're quoting stuff about Christianity-specifics again. Islam has a way different view on Jesus, and I'm sure Judaism does as well. So that disagreement counts only for Christians, whereas I'm talking about believers in God in general.
But hey, I'm getting tired , and you got my point. I'll go to sleep now, and see how this thread has developed in the morning. *yawns*
Politics has already been discussed on this thread. I personally listened to a big political discussion last night between a two friends, and the other three people in the room were quite amused by all the different faces I was making. Fun, really. But yah, I don't care much for politics. This isn't to say that I won't vote or anything, but I'll be voting between the lesser of two evils. (Or three, counting Ron Paul)
@puggsoy: I'm not sure what you're shooting at then. Are you saying that all religions are inherently identical? I don't believe in a God who created the world and stopped there; I believe in a God who created it, gave us the free will to do what we want, died to pay the penalty for our disbelief when we chose willfully to treat Him like trash, wants a personal relationship with each one of us, and wrote down everything so we get the full picture.
me 2.
i say is that the "big bang"when god created the universe, the ice age is when he freezed it when satan was a big jerkface and ruined a perfectly good planet (dinosaurs were here?)and god was like, ok, you have been proven wrong, you can't be like me, to the lake of fire you go and satan was like, wait! you can't punish me, your god. and god said, ok, ill create some creatures with a volition and stuff (i forgot the rest) and poof, we are here.
oh, and when someone is talking all serious about politics or something boring like that stare at their chin, and make emotions like you are mildly interested, nodding you head the feigned surprise, and make a bunch of faces, then when they say what are you doing? you stop with the faces and look serious and say what are you talking about?? and when they shrug and keep talking resume faces. they will eventually leave, frustrated.
@Gooballs of Fire You know, socialism doesn't lead to communism, and you must bear in mind that communism's original idea was to make sure the citizens were all living correctly, in other words, putting the people first. Only THEN idiots like Hitler decided that communism meant that an idividual is only a fragment of society, lives for society, dies for society, so on, so forth. This is also independent from the fact that Hitler was a crazed psycopath. In China, it's different, it is should be badly regarded because it is a military nation aswell as following Hitler/Staline's definition of communism. My point: Socialism is not bad. IMO, socialism has some better characteristics than capitalism, take France for example, they pay our health care (the state, or something along those lines), in the USA, from what I understand, it's take care of yourself, or die slowly while living on the streets. I hope I didn't offend anyone there, but I do hope to launch the debate
Politics has already been discussed on this thread. I personally listened to a big political discussion last night between a two friends, and the other three people in the room were quite amused by all the different faces I was making. Fun, really. But yah, I don't care much for politics. This isn't to say that I won't vote or anything, but I'll be voting between the lesser of two evils. (Or three, counting Ron Paul)
@puggsoy: I'm not sure what you're shooting at then. Are you saying that all religions are inherently identical? I don't believe in a God who created the world and stopped there; I believe in a God who created it, gave us the free will to do what we want, died to pay the penalty for our disbelief when we chose willfully to treat Him like trash, wants a personal relationship with each one of us, and wrote down everything so we get the full picture.
I think the only religion that believes that God stopped after making the universe is Deism, and there aren't many Deists any more. The main idea was that God is like a clockmaker who makes a clock, starts it running, but doesn't need to keep messing with it to make it work.
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@Gooballs of Fire You know, socialism doesn't lead to communism, and you must bear in mind that communism's original idea was to make sure the citizens were all living correctly, in other words, putting the people first. Only THEN idiots like Hitler decided that communism meant that an idividual is only a fragment of society, lives for society, dies for society, so on, so forth. This is also independent from the fact that Hitler was a crazed psycopath. In China, it's different, it is should be badly regarded because it is a military nation aswell as following Hitler/Staline's definition of communism. My point: Socialism is not bad. IMO, socialism has some better characteristics than capitalism, take France for example, they pay our health care (the state, or something along those lines), in the USA, from what I understand, it's take care of yourself, or die slowly while living on the streets. I hope I didn't offend anyone there, but I do hope to launch the debate
Well, by the end of WWII, Hitler was sending nonsensical orders to troops that had never existed in the first place.
And I agree with you about health care. The system that's in place in most of Europe makes more sense than in America IMO.
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@puggsoy: Ah, gotcha. Nevermind, then.
@AP: Good point about Deism. Thanks for the clarification.
@kirdneh: Interesting theory. And the only thing was I was making tons of different faces and neither of them noticed. Ah, well. At least it entertained everyone else.
gooey goo: Are you just trying to make random comments and echo everyone? It's... wierd...
Everyone: I agree with what Mom4Ever proved with that quote. But I wasn't generally saying that all evolutionists don't believe in God. There are some who keep trying to mix the two together (eg, diesm like AP said) which really makes things complicated... I don't even wanna go there.
As far as politics for our healthcare, then yes I agree it's complete trash because Obama's wrecking it. But as far as other topics to talk about...
any one? any ideas?
:yawn:
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two things involving monkeys:
1. they tried that with about 50 monkeys and type writers. the monkeys threw it at each other, tried to eat it, and also used it as a toilet, but not a key was typed. it would have a probability of two to the power of 99999999^9999999 and falling.....
2. if 1 monkey of those infinity monkeys are wearing a blue cap, then that would be a ratio of 1/∞, and 1/∞ = 0/1. or 0%. if 5,000,000 of them are wearing potatoes as earrings (or whatever) then that would be 1/∞ = x/1 and ∞ divided by ∞ = 1 (anything divided by itself =1) so 1 divided by ∞ would be 0, making the whole number system render less. so that means since no numbers mean anything then numbers are false and you can answer "bigfoot" made of ASCII characters in your next math test and it would be true.
-_-How about this: ∞ times x = ∞. 0 times x = 0. So what is 0 times ∞?
Or: why is addition commutative, repeated addition commutative, but repeated repeated addition not commutative? Why does it lose commutivity?
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0 x ∞ is just infinity groups of zero (or zero groups of infinity) to break it all down so it would be zero. any thing else like division, adding, subtracting, shooting, or anything else would do nothing to infinity. so half of infinity is the same thing as infinity? (the internet shuts down for a year to process this statement).
-_-Yep. That's the problem.
If n / infinity = 0, then 0 * infinity = (n / infinity) * infinity = n for any real number n. So it's undefined.
EXCEPT...
This assumes that infinity / infinity = 1. It doesn't. Since infinity = infinity + infinity, if we assume that infinity / infinity = 1, then infinity/infinity + infinity/infinity = 1, so 1 equals 2. That doesn't work.
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lol
Stop trying to use infinity in an equation! It's just a name for continuous numbers!
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MEAP! That's a confusing impossibility topic!
Anyway, if we were made by randomness, then there is no real purpose for humans to exist. That causes MAJOR problems. If you looked at the crime rates of famous cities before evolution was taught as truth and what they are now, I'm sure you'd see an increase. The reason for that is:
Someone is tempted to steal and they believe evolution because the teachers are talking as if it is fact, despite that it's only a theory. Then they realize that because they are a random arrangement of molecules they figure that they have no purpose to further the human society because they would just die later and have no point to life. So they figure they can steal whatever and not get judged by God at the end because they believe there is no God. Therefore, they all believe that and decide that everyone can do whatever they feel is right and crime rate increases from lack of morality.
What do you think about that?
Also, I like using infinity in equations... that's fun!
But how did kirdneh type that infinity symbol?
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I don't want to be mean on this forum, but I'm very tempted. Do you really believe people think of all that on their own? You only thought of it because you were looking for an argument. It's also strange you say there isn't meaning to life. That's ridiculous. Entirely ridiculous. I can't believe you think people stop living well when they learn of evolution. That's just so entirely radically ridiculous. Also, crime rates have been accelerating long before evolution was introduced. People don't just go into anarchy when they fail to believe in a higher power. That's why humans are so great; we are always claiming dominance over other life, allowing breakthroughs for our own practices (not saying of course that all life isn't sacred, I would never kill anything with an IQ above 20, so pretty much just flies and spiders).
I'm usually completely fine with religious folk, but you sir are one of the nuts I hate, getting hard by saying only people with God can be perfect morals.
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I wasn't doing that in a mean way either I was just wondering what kind of argument it would bring up. I'm sorry I just get a leetle carried away sometimes... I'm not saying that only people with God can be perfect morals,or, at least, wasn't implying that. I was just wondering if evolution has anything to do with the moral rates decreasing and wondering what would happen if evolution wasn't being taught. Just curious that's all. Though I do firmly have my Christain beliefs but I'm not trying to impose them on people, just wondering... besides, I'm only 16! I'm not perfectly mature, nobody can get that way... that's why Jesus came. But I'm just wondering things.
Hey... what about raising infinity to the infinite power? what does that come out to? Just wondering.
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Raising infinity to an infinite power would just get infinity. As Red said, infinity is just a way of describing a never ending number, so using it in just about any equation breaks the mathematical laws. Similar to dividing by zero.
Y'know, when people start giving reasons why science is controversial to religion, I like to try and brings them together. So consider this: evolution managed to create bodies for our souls to live in. It's possible that on other planets, similar vessels that can contain souls and minds similar to ours also exist. Basically, what I'm saying is that although our bodies are created by randomness, that doesn't mean that our souls or minds are.
Take it a step further, and you might say that evolution isn't actually random. Sure, it might seem random to us, but that doesn't mean that God didn't intend it to happen. I'm sure that we see things completely different to how God sees them, so we can't try and say that something wasn't supposed to happen, or didn't have a reason to happen, just because we can't conceive that reason.
Make sense?
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I believe in adaptation, but not so far as in evolution. what is the chance of a fish to have a genetic mutation that lets it have legs?
oh, and i typed infinity by going to start, all programs, acessories, system tools, and then character map.
-_-Wow, lotta posts here.
The only problem I have with trying to "fit science and religion" together is that something has to give way. Timelines and generations in the Bible are so fully and literally flushed out that the most time you can get for the age of the universe is 6,000-10,000 years. So people look for a way to jam the millions of years in someplace. But this is biased from the beginning. They're assuming that science proves millions of years, and they're trying to change the Bible to fit that. And it doesn't entirely work. What if you started from the viewpoint that the Bible is true, and try to fit science to that? Logically and philosophically, this viewpoint is just as sound. And imo, they fit together quite a bit better than the other way around. (Woo, rhymes)
And shoot, kirdneh stole the 400th post.
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I'm not trying to fit together science and Christianity, I'm talking about science and general religious beliefs, including Christianity, Islam, and Judaism (is that what it's called?). Maybe not Hinduism, since they have multiple gods, but basically I'm trying to say that both evolution and the idea that God created the universe can fit together. Maybe not all points of a single religion would fit, but you get the idea, right?
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Yes I get the idea. But yes religon with science; they go hand in hand. Without one, the other fails....
Ok... I'm kinda gettin' bored here. What else is there to talk about? We've basically posted about every single topic... well... except politics...
Here's my view on politics in the US right now:
1.Obama is horrible.
2.He's moving us towards socialism.
3.That'll lead us to communism.
4.You know how bad communism is from the Nazis right?
5.If the government keeps spending thier taxes off and getting us into debt we're toast.
6.If the communist countries like China that we're borrowing money from suddenly decide to bomb us if we don't pay them back... we're in war and toast if we don't get that government to BUDGET!
7.If America turns communist I'm running away to make my own country.
8.If that fails I'll try one in space.
9.Rick Perry has the right idea to get people praying! PRAY LIKE THE WIND PEOPLE!
Other than that... nothin' to talk about...
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Here's my view on politics in general:
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Politics has already been discussed on this thread. I personally listened to a big political discussion last night between a two friends, and the other three people in the room were quite amused by all the different faces I was making. Fun, really. But yah, I don't care much for politics. This isn't to say that I won't vote or anything, but I'll be voting between the lesser of two evils. (Or three, counting Ron Paul)
@puggsoy: I'm not sure what you're shooting at then. Are you saying that all religions are inherently identical? I don't believe in a God who created the world and stopped there; I believe in a God who created it, gave us the free will to do what we want, died to pay the penalty for our disbelief when we chose willfully to treat Him like trash, wants a personal relationship with each one of us, and wrote down everything so we get the full picture.
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Well, what I'm basically trying to say is that the theory of the Big Bang, evolution, etc, doesn't necessarily mean that there's no God. I'm trying to show that all these scientific theories could still be true along with God also existing.
When I grouped all those religions together, I was pretty much grouping those who believe in a single God, as opposed to those who believe in multiple gods, like Hindus. (No offence to Hindus, btw.)
But to say that God made the world exactly how it is now (or was a few thousand years ago) is a whole different matter: that's where science and religion start to collide. I'm just trying to show that evolution doesn't mean God doesn't exist.
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Ooooo...kay? I'm not sure why you'd want to prove that. But there are plenty of people who'd disagree, even atheists.
“Christianity has fought, still fights, and will fight science to the desperate end over evolution, because evolution destroys utterly and finally the very reason Jesus’ earthly life was supposedly made necessary. Destroy Adam and Eve and the original sin, and in the rubble you will find the sorry remains of the son of god. Take away the meaning of his death. If Jesus was not the redeemer that died for our sins, and this is what evolution means, then Christianity is nothing.”
G. Richard Bozarth, “The Meaning of Evolution”, American Atheist, 20 Sept. 1979, p. 30
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Meh, I'm just trying to make it clear because, from what I understood, Gooballs of Fire seemed to think that evolution = no God. I'm not saying that's exactly what he said, but that's the kind of vibe I was getting. So I was just trying to make it all clear.
But see, you're quoting stuff about Christianity-specifics again. Islam has a way different view on Jesus, and I'm sure Judaism does as well. So that disagreement counts only for Christians, whereas I'm talking about believers in God in general.
But hey, I'm getting tired
, and you got my point. I'll go to sleep now, and see how this thread has developed in the morning. *yawns*
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Politics has already been discussed on this thread. I personally listened to a big political discussion last night between a two friends, and the other three people in the room were quite amused by all the different faces I was making. Fun, really. But yah, I don't care much for politics. This isn't to say that I won't vote or anything, but I'll be voting between the lesser of two evils. (Or three, counting Ron Paul)
@puggsoy: I'm not sure what you're shooting at then. Are you saying that all religions are inherently identical? I don't believe in a God who created the world and stopped there; I believe in a God who created it, gave us the free will to do what we want, died to pay the penalty for our disbelief when we chose willfully to treat Him like trash, wants a personal relationship with each one of us, and wrote down everything so we get the full picture.
me 2.
i say is that the "big bang"when god created the universe, the ice age is when he freezed it when satan was a big jerkface and ruined a perfectly good planet (dinosaurs were here?)and god was like, ok, you have been proven wrong, you can't be like me, to the lake of fire you go and satan was like, wait! you can't punish me, your god. and god said, ok, ill create some creatures with a volition and stuff (i forgot the rest) and poof, we are here.
oh, and when someone is talking all serious about politics or something boring like that stare at their chin, and make emotions like you are mildly interested, nodding you head the feigned surprise, and make a bunch of faces, then when they say what are you doing? you stop with the faces and look serious and say what are you talking about?? and when they shrug and keep talking resume faces. they will eventually leave, frustrated.
-_-@Gooballs of Fire You know, socialism doesn't lead to communism, and you must bear in mind that communism's original idea was to make sure the citizens were all living correctly, in other words, putting the people first. Only THEN idiots like Hitler decided that communism meant that an idividual is only a fragment of society, lives for society, dies for society, so on, so forth. This is also independent from the fact that Hitler was a crazed psycopath. In China, it's different, it is should be badly regarded because it is a military nation aswell as following Hitler/Staline's definition of communism. My point: Socialism is not bad. IMO, socialism has some better characteristics than capitalism, take France for example, they pay our health care (the state, or something along those lines), in the USA, from what I understand, it's take care of yourself, or die slowly while living on the streets. I hope I didn't offend anyone there, but I do hope to launch the debate
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Politics has already been discussed on this thread. I personally listened to a big political discussion last night between a two friends, and the other three people in the room were quite amused by all the different faces I was making. Fun, really. But yah, I don't care much for politics. This isn't to say that I won't vote or anything, but I'll be voting between the lesser of two evils. (Or three, counting Ron Paul)
@puggsoy: I'm not sure what you're shooting at then. Are you saying that all religions are inherently identical? I don't believe in a God who created the world and stopped there; I believe in a God who created it, gave us the free will to do what we want, died to pay the penalty for our disbelief when we chose willfully to treat Him like trash, wants a personal relationship with each one of us, and wrote down everything so we get the full picture.
I think the only religion that believes that God stopped after making the universe is Deism, and there aren't many Deists any more. The main idea was that God is like a clockmaker who makes a clock, starts it running, but doesn't need to keep messing with it to make it work.
@Gooballs of Fire You know, socialism doesn't lead to communism, and you must bear in mind that communism's original idea was to make sure the citizens were all living correctly, in other words, putting the people first. Only THEN idiots like Hitler decided that communism meant that an idividual is only a fragment of society, lives for society, dies for society, so on, so forth. This is also independent from the fact that Hitler was a crazed psycopath. In China, it's different, it is should be badly regarded because it is a military nation aswell as following Hitler/Staline's definition of communism. My point: Socialism is not bad. IMO, socialism has some better characteristics than capitalism, take France for example, they pay our health care (the state, or something along those lines), in the USA, from what I understand, it's take care of yourself, or die slowly while living on the streets. I hope I didn't offend anyone there, but I do hope to launch the debate
Well, by the end of WWII, Hitler was sending nonsensical orders to troops that had never existed in the first place.
And I agree with you about health care. The system that's in place in most of Europe makes more sense than in America IMO.
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@puggsoy: Ah, gotcha. Nevermind, then.
@AP: Good point about Deism. Thanks for the clarification.
@kirdneh: Interesting theory. And the only thing was I was making tons of different faces and neither of them noticed. Ah, well. At least it entertained everyone else.
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I made goomods.
Much of this has been said before. We're just circling ourselves.
I tweet like a bird
I have a lame website
going in circles,O
I made goomods.
gooey goo: Are you just trying to make random comments and echo everyone? It's... wierd...
Everyone: I agree with what Mom4Ever proved with that quote. But I wasn't generally saying that all evolutionists don't believe in God. There are some who keep trying to mix the two together (eg, diesm like AP said) which really makes things complicated... I don't even wanna go there.
As far as politics for our healthcare, then yes I agree it's complete trash because Obama's wrecking it. But as far as other topics to talk about...
any one? any ideas?
For those wondering, Earth of Goo is still being worked on, but not as often. It will be finished! Check out my website/YouTube @ScarletFury!
how is my sisters account here?
i'll just spazz it up a bit
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Please call me "multi"
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is this good?